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Laura Matsue Guenther's avatar

Loved this!

It’s interesting to think about how wrong this kind of teaching can go when being used as a coverup for deeper issues, especially when you’re dealing with people with personality disorders who love to use rigid ideologies to maintain control.

IE the dominant man could be the perfect mask for a controlling narcissistic type, the feminine woman the fawning codependent. It seems like we are still in thick of polarity’s heyday and we have yet to see a bigger reveal of these underlying problems.

And yes, the inner union is so key. Many talk about this, yet so few seem to speak about the shadow work, withdrawal of idealized projections, and individuation process of both parties that must occur for this truly to take place.

Looking forward to hearing more from you about this!

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Leigh-Anne LoPinto's avatar

Thanks so much, Laura, for sharing this reflection. Yes! You totally have it, those were the masks that were being used in this scene and it was pure codependence running between the types of men and women you state. Really dysfunctional and abusive in many cases. So much shadow running throughout, sadly with the teachers as well. Much love and sex addiction from the teachers and the audience that's pulled to it. And throw in toxic shaming for anyone who doesn't fall in line and it's a great control mechanism.

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Aaron's avatar

I talk about this in my writing, YouTube channel, and in person. I was immersed in a very similar environment around the same time frame and experienced the masculine feminine polarity cult.

There is a need to know what more drastic forms of masculine and feminine look like to know what healthy balance might look like in potential and then lived experience. I think people are programmed to have fixed reality worldviews and that leaves them vulnerable to collapses and the shadow side.

I do think the right relationships offer good training grounds to develop a fluidity in an evolving person that requires a fluidity in worldview in the self. I think modern families are designed more as isolated survival contracts to prevent sacred communion of the divine feminine and masculine expressed through individuals which blossoms reality itself.

This focus of attack to increase separation is a repeated pattern that intentionally divides all aspects of the human being. I have diagrams that help explain the inner and outer world forces and forms.

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Leigh-Anne LoPinto's avatar

Thanks Aaron for sharing all this. Sounds like our work has a lot in common! Would love to check out some of yours.

I agree that we definitely have to go into the extreme to know what the depth is (it matters to have GREAT teachers here...for sure). I did have to swing hard into complete feminine to reclaim those lost parts of myself and then come more into center.

True union is coming, no doubt. Having done this work internally to this level I now can map this onto the evolutionary path of humanity. With all being said, these are exciting times to be alive! What I'm really interested in is coming up and out of the shadow so that we can truly create the new paradigm, now! This is the heart of my work and where I lead people to.

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Christine O's avatar

Powerful post and so resonating of some of the spaces that exist locally. It's easy to mask work of divine union masculine and feminine for alterior motives its everywhere. I feel this cult aspect is a space that has existed in time to prey on work and expose the shadow in a negative way. This exist in many religions, groups etc. to prey on the shadow. If you have done the work your energy knows it, feels its energy and whether entry is right. You will attract energy on your level. Hence why I am pulled to your work.

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Leigh-Anne LoPinto's avatar

Love this, Christine! It's so easy to hook people through the shadow and unfortunately is the main way people do it overall! Even through marketing, etc, which is so unethical. So true what you say about energy. We can feel into all of this...

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Gregory Billeci's avatar

great post 🙏

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Leigh-Anne LoPinto's avatar

Thanks Gregory 🙏 More to come.

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Carlen Altman's avatar

Very validating and healing to read, thank you 💓

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Leigh-Anne LoPinto's avatar

Thanks Carlen 🙏 iykyk.

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Carlen Altman's avatar

Oh ik 🌞💓i recently lovingly spoke up to a friend turned teacher I know who got really lost in promoting and capitalizing off of a very wayward version of polarity and they ignored me and it felt perfect how cowardly some of these “divine masculines” can actually be, which is the cause of their strained perception in the first place. They’re likely dealing with repressed maternal wounding and afraid of women’s strength or being equals - and equally many women - their customers - are afraid of their own strength and see it as “masculine” or “being a bitch” and repress it - or overemphasize one way of being - when in reality, we are all meant to be the inner balance 💓 ✡️when the fetus forms, it first grows a vagina which forms into a penis. We are all one multifaceted thing - the bee and the flower - the giver and receiver - but division, rebranded sexism, and victim consciousness still sells for many …. though equally I pray this is a paradigm of consciousness we are first leaving individually and then collectively … at least that’s how I feel 💓🤗in other words, thank you for your post and all your work 💓 you are not alone!

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Leigh-Anne LoPinto's avatar

Oh my gosh, Carlen. This comment is so incredible, thank you so much. I’m going to respond more fully when I get home in front of my laptop, but I just wanted to say that just two days ago I was having this same conversation with my incredible acupuncturist who is totally clued in. She said the same exact thing that you just did about the baby in utero!!

And, I cannot stand when people refer to men as “divine masculines” and vice versa for women. NOBODY who is human on this earth right now is in the divine form of either expression. This represents a total delusion rooted in fantasy land. More soon 🙏

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Leigh-Anne LoPinto's avatar

Thanks again for sharing all of this...I totally agree that mother wounds are at the core of many men's unhealed shadow behavior, and likely the opposite for women (as it goes with the polarities - ha!)

The awakened woman is a threat to the man's ego. The men who welcome their woman as an oracle of truth and love will rise, and I do see some people like Lorin Krenn speaking to this.

Relationship in general, for all of us, is a threat to the ego - as it should be. When we can lean in to using the material of what comes up in relationship for healing and growth, the sky's the limit.

I love what you say, too, about the women suppressing their power. What's suppressed will come out with a roar one day, or will be internalized as disease (as happened with my mom - in the article I wrote on the Type C personality.)

The irony here is that it's the good, strong men who love a challenge (the woman who isn't always 'easy') whereas the 'weak' men who can't handle it will choose the women they can run over.

For all of us, we need to ask if we are devoted to our partner's ego, or our partner's soul. I choose the latter. ❤️

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Carlen Altman's avatar

Wow thank you so much for sharing this and how beautiful you and your acupuncturist had this conversation 💓

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Sara Mozelle's avatar

I definitely see what you are talking about. I see shadows in the form of patterns- in individuals and collectives as well as movements, entities and religions.

I am very curious about what you witnessed with one taste.

I have been very intrigued by this. I read on Reddit that Nicole’s father was a sex offender, but I was unable to verify that information anywhere.

I was just thinking this morning that there was a clip of her talking about her father being on another level that we don’t understand… and I was thinking if she was abused or complicit in abuse or even silent, that she carries the shadow as well. Which is very concerning.

Without hearing it directly from her though it’s all hearsay.

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Leigh-Anne LoPinto's avatar

Thanks Sara for sharing. I've heard things but can't confirm.

For me it's above and beyond the people, although of course knowledge is power (it can be helpful to know who or what to avoid).

The energy behind all of this is what I'm attempting to highlight, because that's what we all have to get familiar with collectively. Then we can start to recognize it everywhere that it's playing out - to say NO and set boundaries with it. This energy is a dark, predator energy that plays out in all kinds of ways - victim creation and enabling of victimhood, but also victim blaming (a classic narcissist technique).

The darkness that you see here playing out in human relationships leads to things like moral relativism and trying to convince the public that pedophilia is in fact "minor loving people." This is just one example. Evil is real and it's not 'anything goes, it's all good!" This is why they play with the language all the time and try to reprogram us through that.

I could go on and on but this is just a comment section 🙂

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